Southern State of Golf

Playing Bulls Bay Golf Club

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Join us as we explore the fascinating design and features of Bulls Bay Golf Course in South Carolina, highlighting its natural beauty, challenging layout, and unique history. Discover why this course is a must-visit for golf enthusiasts and learn about its construction, signature holes, and exclusive access.

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Welcome to the Southern State of Golf Podcast. Hi, I'm your host, John. In today's episode, I'm excited to talk about my recent experience at Bulls Bay Golf Club. Had an opportunity to participate in the Charleston Leadership Foundation Golf Tournament that was recently held in Awanda, South Carolina, where Bulls Bay is located. This was one of those opportunities that came around at the last minute, and I was just very thankful for the opportunity to get to play Bulls Bay. Bulls Bay is a Mike Strantz course, that it's one of those courses. It was in my top 10 courses in South Carolina that I wanted to play. I've always wanted to play Bulls Bay. I did have an opportunity to visit there probably 10, 15 years ago when I helped out with the KL Cancer Fund Foundation golf tournament. And I was just blown away about just how cool Bulls Bay is. And that's the thing about Bulls Bay. Bulls Bay, I think is just such a cool-looking course. The clubhouse is cool. It was set up high. And we'll certainly talk more about that as we get into my experience there at Bulls Bay. You know, one of the this is the first time that I participated in a Shamble golf tournament. You know, the Charleston Leadership Foundation golf tournament was a shamble golf format, which honestly I never heard of that before. But the way it is is everybody tees off, and you pick the best tee shot from that, and then you play. Everybody plays their own ball after the best T-shot. And so, and then from us, the way we played it was the two best scores out of our foursome is what counted. And that's what was called a shamble. I know there may be some different variations with the shamble, but I thought it was just, I had such a great time playing this format, and that it also did help that we had a guy that was part of our foursome that could absolutely bomb it. I think we used his, I'm pretty, I'm actually pretty confident that we used at least 95% of his T shots on all the par fours and par fives. I can't even think of one that we didn't use. And I hit some, I hit for me some bombs as well. I hit some great T shots, but man, this dude was so long off the T that it was just, it was ridiculous. He was hitting 300 yard bombs. I mean, it it was incredible. It was kind of, it was a fun, the shambles was a fun format because if you had someone that hit a great T shot, then you could go for it. Like you could really, if you wanted to be aggressive, you wanted to swing harder just to see if you could get one better, then you're great. Now, of course, the flip side's also true in a shamble. If the first three people shanked it, terrible T-shot, then that last dude's got to put something in at a good spot. And, you know, our group, we actually did pretty well overall. No thanks to me particularly. Although I did have a couple of good, I had a couple of good holes where I my score counted, but that was because of our one guy just killed it. And this was the fun thing about golf that I love, and particularly this day. The foursome, I think two guys knew each other, and the other two, including myself, we didn't know each other. Like I said, this was a last-minute deal that we just got an opportunity, you know, to play in this particular golf, uh golf event. And we got thrown together, and all four of us, I think we we really did. We had a blast, had a really good time, played good golf, you know, good fellowship, got to talk to people. Everybody else has played Bulls Bay before, and this was my first time playing it. And like I said, I'm a huge Mike Strands fan. I mean, I'm a big fan of what he's done. And Bulls Bay is, you know, Mike Strands is the way I've got it, you know, he's like, how many courses did he design? You know, if you look if you look at Google, Google will say anywhere between seven and nine. You know, and the way I understand it is, you know, he designed seven courses by himself, and then there were two courses that were renovations, you know, of courses he's already designed. And the way I understand it, Bulls Bay was his last, you know, full design that he had. So and I I'm just a huge Mike Strantz fan, just a big fan. And the story of Bulls Bay, it just seems like it's a really cool thing because in Charleston, it's in Alwendal, South Carolina, which is, you know, probably more northeast of Charleston. And, you know, it's probably about people say, depending on the time of day and traffic, it's about 40 miles away from downtown Charleston, you know, 20 minutes from Mount Pleasant, uh, South Carolina, there. But, you know, to say it's in Charleston, I can go with it. That's fair. People in Charleston might take offense to that. People in Alwendal might take offense to it, but it is a beautiful piece of property there in Alwendal. You know, the the thing that I really like about it is this, you know, Bulls Bay Golf Club is a golf club, first and foremost. It is nothing else. It is not a country club, they don't have other sports or anything else. This is all about the golf. You know, this was the vision of, you know, there's probably a number of people that this is the vision of part of it is Joe Rice, you know, who's a local attorney that, you know, was the funding behind it. Then it was Mike Strance. Um, you know, Mike Strant's he's an architect, but I I think when I've read about it, people will like throw back, he's really an you know, architect, but he's an artist. And I would say the area where Bulls Bay was created was his canvas. You know, but Mike Strant actually lived on site while creating it. I think a lot of golf you know architects, they don't live where where they're putting up these different courses, but Mike Strant actually, you know, uh lived there while on campus. They said many times it was a big sh, you know, big canvas of what he tried to do. One of the crazy things about Bulls Bay is it sits, you know, in the Charleston Low Country where most of your golf courses and really most of the land is pretty much relatively flat. As a matter of fact, before this golf course was created, the land sat only about above six feet above sea level. And there was a just a an insane amount of earth moved to create this course. They said approximately two million cubic yards of earth were moved during construction. Just masses of massive amounts of shaping and different things went on to create this the different features. And of course, the stunning feature of the golf course is where the clubhouse sits, which is roughly 75 feet. They the crazy thing to me about all this and the amount of earth that they moved is staggering. But what is also staggering to me is it looks natural to me. Now, granted, this was done in the early 2000s when this was created. Like I said, this was uh Mike Strant's last you know solo masterpiece that he created, which I I do, I believe it is a masterpiece. I believe it is an outstanding golf course, and and the view from the clubhouse is amazing. The view looking up to the clubhouse, I think all of like but like five, four or five whole uh holes where you is where you can view uh the clubhouse, or I you know I think you can see all but maybe about four or five greens from the clubhouse itself. That's just how high up. You know, 75 feet to some may not sound like a lot, but in the Charleston Low Country, it is, it's up there. You know, holes number nine and number 18, they finish up playing up to the clubhouse, and they're outstanding holes. You know, it's but it doesn't feel man-made. That's the thing about it, Timmy. If you would, if you were there originally, you might think it's different, but what to me it seemed all natural. I don't think anything about it was man-made. But the reality is, man, this this course was man-made. And Mike Strantz, give him credit. And the construction company, when they put this together, I think it's it's crazy. I mean, it looks great. It looks, it feels natural to me. Now, I know there might be some people in Charleston say, ah, this doesn't feel natural to me. But the clubhouse, how it sits above the high point, I think it looks amazing. And the story is that they kind of fashioned this a little bit, or maybe the reminder off of Shinnecock. And, you know, one of the stories is Joe Rice, when someone told him, hey, I want this to kind of be like Shinnnecock, Joe Rice, like, I have no idea what Shinnnecock is. I've never seen it. Maybe did have an idea, just had seen it. But so they flew up there and they saw it, and then Mike Stranth kind of sketched out what it would look like. And Joe Rice was apparently like, all right, let's do this. I know I'm oversimplifying that story a little bit, but I think it's amazing. I think it's one of the coolest clubhouses, you know, especially settings in South Carolina. There's some, you know, we're very blessed and fortunate in South Carolina. I have some great clubhouse abuse. And I certainly put Bull's Bay in there. In both that ninth and eighteenth hole finishing up high when you're going up. I I will say for me as a whole, I'm not a huge fan of golf holes going uphill. I just not. Um maybe part of that is just because I don't play well going uphill. But for me, I'm not a huge fan of that. But it works here. Both the ninth and eighteenth holes are fantastic. You know, of the 18 holes, I would tell you I love, I'd probably love about 12 of them that I love. And the other ones are are solid too, but there's about 12 holes that I think are really, really good that I really like. One of the things I I like too is, you know, there's a there's a part cool par fives out there too. They're almost like a horseshoe where you really, you know, it I I didn't really understand the horseshoe concept with it, but it really truly is. There are some holes that, you know, you've got to, you know, bomb it. You know, you probably can't bomb, uh, first of all, it's not me to try to reach a par uh par five and two, but it it's almost, I don't want to say impossible, but really difficult. Um, I will say this too. One of the things that I like about Bulls Bay is I think it is challenging for long hitters, as um, but it's also wide enough for guys like me who aren't particularly long to wear and make mistakes. I didn't lose many balls. I think I lost maybe two balls um on the golf course, and there's a lot of water. For me, if there's a lot of water in a course, that tends to be a problem. Of course, I will say it certainly helped the guy that we played with that was bombing him off the T. We always had shorter, you know, lines into the and into the hole. But, you know, it was a very fair golf course for people that aren't great, but I think it also there was a lot of shot making ability for guys that can bomb it, like choices you've got to make. You know, of course, Mike Strance is known as the Maverick. And so I think um, you know, I think it's got a good mixture. I would love to know what other people think. Um, you know, it's a golf course that I will tell you, I think that I like more and more after playing it, taking some time away from it. Like I think I've researched the course more after playing it than I did before playing it, and then trying to understand a little bit more about what Mike Strantz was doing. I think it it is amazing. Like I said, there's really so many really good golf holes out there. And, you know, there was even one where they put some back, they they created one particular area of a back tee in one of the holes that is just like they said it costs like a million dollars just to create this little area for a back tee way back to create something better. It is, you know, Bulls Bay is host to the Hootie at Bulls Bay. It's a college golf tournament that's known as one of the best college golf tournaments um in the country. It's one of the more prestigious ones out there. And then, you know, obviously Bulls Bay is a fantastic setting for it. You know, Bulls Bay is an incredibly difficult tea time to get. You know, they do not, you know, you just can't call up there and say, hey, can I get a tea time? And they're like, sure, come on over. It is known by a lot of people to be a very difficult tea time. Now, what I will say about this that I really like that Bulls Bay does, and then their leadership um handles, they do have a number of charity golf events that go out there. Not what I would consider a ton, but you know, they have a you know, a fair amount of charity golf tournaments, and this is what this one was part of, the uh Charleston Leadership Foundation uh golf foundation. But they have other different charity golf events during the year, gives you an opportunity to get on. I also like it, and you can tell that when you see these um auctions that go on for different causes, that there's kind of many times there's a Bull's Bay foursome or threesome with a member on there. So I like that there's a philanthropic, you know, motive to this golf club where it's not all just about them, but I would also say it is hard to get on. This is not an easy particular tea time to come around. There's a lot of private clubs which you can find a way to get on. And there's people out there that help you out. And I'm not saying this isn't the same with Bulls Bay, but I this has been one of the harder tea times for me to be able to get uh an opportunity to play. So I'm very thankful for that. And, you know, but I will say this what people will say when they play Bulls Bay is it feels relaxed. It does have a relaxed atmosphere. It doesn't feel so prim and proper, which I think some private golf clubs, especially ones that are hard to get on, they they kind of come across as maybe stuffy. Bulls Bay doesn't come across that way. Now, granted, I did play it on the day where it was a part of a charity golf tournament. So most of the people out there weren't members. I think there still were some members a part of that. But it it just had a um just a kind of a cool just atmosphere vibe to it. Um, you know, the membership of the course is is really limited as well. Matter of fact, if you were to go to their uh their website, which I think they've got a they've got a solid website, uh bullsbaygolf.com. It's got a great picture. Looking up, that's actually looking up of um with the clubhouse in the background, number nine is one of the first ones that they show there. But if you go to click on the membership tab, you know, they don't even have like a club membership full, and they're not even adding to the waiting list. Apparently the waiting list is so long, they don't even add to it. You know, I know uh Darius Rucker is a member. I'm sure there's other you know famous people that are members at Bulls Bay, and you know, Darius has talked frequently, that's one of his favorite, you know, it's his favorite golf course. You know, I think one of the things too, if you go to like YouTube at TikTok and you search Bulls Bay, when people are pulling in that shows that they got the iron, you know, the bull you know, skull with the horn sticking out that it opens up and people come in. When I went through, I was hoping that gate would be closed and I could open it, open it to see it open up, but it was already open. But it that was kind of a cool thing. And like I said, so many holes were so many great holes. Like I say, number one, you tee off from an elevated position down, and number 10, number 10, I think, is fantastic. You're teeing up really high, and then it's a quick drop, you know, down there. And I bombed my tee shot at number 10. Bombed it, absolutely bombed it. Like I probably, I don't know how far, but for me, it was probably 270, but uh, got well out driven by somebody else. By the guy that was on our foursome, he absolutely, he probably put his three, three, it was definitely three plus. And I felt good about mine. It was like one of those, like, okay, maybe one time we can use my drive. Nope, didn't happen. The other guy just bombed it down there. But that's that was a cool thing. There were so many great holes. Like I said, I I talk about 10, you talk about uh nine, you talk about 18, one was really good. The par threes, they got five par threes out there. And one of the things I loved about the par threes are they're not crazy long. I'm not a huge fan of par threes, at least from my ability, that's over like 180. Now, I I know part of the people say, well, then you're picking the wrong T's. Well, that may be the case, but the par threes are all gittable for most um, you know, uh we I think we played the skull, what they call the skull tees. Certainly didn't play the Maverick T's. Those were way too far back there, maybe not from our part of our group. But, you know, the par threes were all very gettable. Now, there were some of them were very difficult too, with a lot with marsh and water around, bunkers. I mean, I was in the sand frequently, and it's just um, but it never felt punitive while I was out there. And the thing I said, the thing too about Bulls Bay with it being just a golf community. There's some housing around there, but not really around the golf course. But this is a golf club. This was created to be a golf club. It wasn't created to be, you know, I think some private clubs are created to be residential areas and then real estate stuff, and then let's throw a golf course in the middle. This was created as a golf course. This created as a golf club and something that's just, you know, like I said, really cool. It's I would imagine, I don't know the others, but it's probably one of Mark Strantz's hardest courses to get on because most of his courses are public courses. This wasn't actually my fourth course though of Mike Strant's I got to play. I had an opportunity to play Tobacco Road, True Blue, Caledonia, and now Bulls Bay. And uh Bulls Bay, like I said, is is really, really outstanding. You know, it's you know consistently considered, I'd say one of the you know top courses in South Carolina. They also got their training facilities called the ranch. You know, everything is leaning on the the ranch, the bull, that type of mantra, which many times that's what Mike Strant's courses are like. And they even got their mascot, Titleist the Bull will make an appearance. A real-lived bull will make an appearance from time to time. He was not, he was not there at our particular uh event, you know, but it's it's just such a cool area, cool golf course, cool vibe. The Pro Shop had a lot of really good gear in there. Uh certainly got me a hat, you know, from there. And it's just it's just really cool stuff. So I'd highly encourage you, if you ever get an opportunity to go play Bulls Bay, that's one of those, this is one of those you take them up on it. You know, for me too, it's one of those that I, if someone were to offer me next week, say, hey, I got an opportunity to go play Bulls Bay, how would I look at it? For me, I'd jump on it. I said, all right, let's go make it happen. You know, sometimes when you play a course that's maybe highly ranked, highly rated, you've already played it once. What would you do to try to play it again? And for me, Bulls Bay, if someone offered me an opportunity next week, I'd go figure out a way. Let's go play. You know, that I want to go play it again. I would love another opportunity to go play Bulls Bay and maybe even take my time because this particular time when I went, I had to rush, rush down there, had to rush to get back because I had to work, had another event to go to later on at night and part of my day job. So I would have probably liked to have taken a little bit more time there. But when I'm while playing, there was no rush. It did not rush. The food there was really good. I had some, you know, some pork and rice and kind of a southwestern Mexican flavor type style to it that was there on the course, that was part of you know the uh of the charity golf tournament, which the food that they had there, like I said, it was it was really good and certainly well done. And so I would always encourage you if you got if someone's offering you an opportunity to go play Bulls Bay and you haven't ever played it, go play it. That's one of those you go say yes, you go figure it out. Because you don't know, those opportunities don't come around you know frequently. So as we head into, I'm kind of changing. I used to, Bulls Bay was one of the top 10 courses. When I first started this podcast, say years ago, but it was actually just last year, 2025, you know, one of my first podcasts, I talked about the top 10 courses in South Carolina that I wanted to play. And Bulls Bay was in that top 10. And so I get to mark one of those off. I'm so excited, you know, to have gotten to play it. I've actually created a new top 10, very similar, but it's called Top 10 Courses within about a three-hour drive of where I live in Columbia, South Carolina, that I would like to play. And so this could encompass some of North Carolina, some of Georgia. What I will say is two courses, I've actually took three courses off the list. First one I took off the list was Augusta National. Yep, it's only about an hour and some change, but everybody wants to play Augusta National. So I've taken that off the list. But please realize that is absolutely if we're talking the top course I want to play was Winhoff, a three-hour drive, it's Augusta National, without a doubt. Other two courses, I could have probably fudged and put them on the list, but I didn't, which was Wade Hampton Golf Club in Cassius, North Carolina and O'Hoopy Match Club in Georgia. Those are technically a little bit more than three hours away. So I didn't include them on the list. I debated about should I include them? I guess I could. Probably thought about it way too much, but I didn't and did not include Wade Hampton or O'Hoopy. So if I did, those two would actually be very, very high on the list. So let's go now with the top 10 corner. Courses I would like to play within a three-hour drive. Most of these are in South Carolina, but like I said, within a three-hour drive. And these are courses I have not played yet. These are my top if I could play any course again, but the key is courses I have not played yet. Number 10, Augusta Country Club. Well, Augusta Country Club right down there, which it nestles right up next to Augusta National. It's it seems like it would be just really cool to play at a course that's right next to Augusta National. It has the same landscape as Augusta National. Certainly not Augusta National, but it's always seemed like a really cool course. Love to play it. Number nine, Hague Point. Um, Golf Hague Point Club that's down there in Defusky Island. It's just, it's got a really cool fact, uh, just cool factor to it that looks so neat. Got to take a ferry to get over there. I know uh the guys, the whole story podcast, you know, uh Robbie and them got an opportunity to play it, and there's a great podcast that talks about the vision and different things at Hague Point Club. I would encourage you to go check it out. Go to bestball.com and check out the wonderful selection of podcasts that the Best Ball family has. And go check out the one about Hague Point. Certainly outstanding. Number nine, it's a new one on my list. Um, and I don't know a ton about it, but I'm a big fan of the area it's in. Uh Anson Point. Anson Point's part of the Palmetto Bluff family of golf courses, where you got May River is also part of Palmetto Bluff. You also have crossroads, which I'm a huge fan of crossroads. But Anson Point was designed by Bill Corps, Ben Crenshaw. It's set within 500 acres there in the low country, kind of the bluffed in area, but part of the Palmetto Bluff, Palmetto Bluff is just, I think, one of the coolest, understated as far as how cool of an area that is to vacation in. Now, or vacation, maybe live, I don't may not be saying the right word. I also say it isn't cheap. But the way I understand Anson Point is a completely private club, but it's one of those that I'm just dying to play. I'm a big fan of Bill Coor and Vin Crenshaw designs. I think they're really cool. You know, the course's logo is the Eastern Wild Turkey. Uh and our friend that uh Dave Basedon, he he was a big part of the design of that as well. I think it's a cool logo. Matter of fact, I think I messaged him on uh based on um Instagram said he could cost me some money because if I go to have an opportunity to play Anson Point, I know I would certainly, you know, purchase you know uh some of their items from there because I'm a big fan of, like I say, cool logos. Great, great logo. I mean, too, you got an Eastern wild turkey. Sounds pretty cool. Number seven, Succession Golf Club down in the Buford area. You know, super hard to get on. It's one of these courses where they don't allow unaccompanied people to play anymore. You've got to be accompanied by a guest. So, you know, a lot of places will allow you to play unaccompanied, but Succession Golf Club isn't one of those. It's also probably got one of the coolest porches, you know, uh, you know, kind of 19th holes all in golf that would be down there. Just one of those I just love to be a part of and take in. Number six, Harbortown Golf links. Just, I mean, Harbortown, that's what I gotta say. Hilton Head, absolutely incredible. Certainly want to play it. I mean, you know, it's it's on the PGA tour, it follows right after the masters. And, you know, but there's a lot of uh PGA tour pros that say they love Harbortown, they just love the setup of the golf course. And to me, when you get, you know, pros will keep it real. And I just think that would be really cool. Number five on my list is 21 Club. 21 Club is that new uh golf course that's in the Aiken area down there that's still pretty new and it's kind of got a little mystique to it. Like I haven't seen a ton about it. You know, there's a little bit out there by social media. I don't know if they're still technically in preview play, but there's this just cool vibe. I love the logo, and the fact there's a little mystery in there, I think is will be outstanding to look forward and opportunity. Hopefully, go play that at some point in time. It just looks really, really cool. Number four is probably the one that I know hardly anybody's played it. I did know our good friend from the on the podcast, Corey Lewis, who's played over 2,000 different courses, Cherokee Plantation. Cherokee Plantation, which I think membership is in, I think they said the 20s or the teens, something really low, really hard to get on the play. I think one one place called it one of the most exclusive golf clubs in the world, just because there's so few people and it gets so few rounds during the year. And there's really just not much known about it. I just think that would be such a cool place to play. I wouldn't, if they showed me a picture of the hole, I wouldn't know a single hole on the golf club. But when you talk about exclusivity, you know, it's rare. You just not many people know about it, it's hard to get on. It's probably that intrigue factor of not knowing a whole lot, but you want to go try it. So that's why Cherokee Plantation is number four for me. Number three, Sage Valley. You know, Sage Valley, you know, I think the people have talked about it often. Um I even saw working. Kevin Hart went out there and played Sage Valley when he was down for the Masters. I I it's, you know, Sage Valley is just one of those that it's built up to be this grand golf course, and it is. Everybody says nothing but great things. I haven't had an opportunity to play it. But that's one of those that, you know, hey, if I'm ever invited, ever fortunate enough to, I will say yes in a heartbeat. Figure out the rest of it. Number two on there within three hours, and this one's a North Carolina course, Pinehurst number two. Probably could have put some other Pinehurst courses on here, but we went with Pinehurst number two, the number two course within three-hour drive that I want to play. I mean, Pinehurst number two, what do you mean, it's hosted so many big-time events, so many wonderful things about it's the crown jewel, you know, uh of North Carolina, or what are their crown jewels in North Carolina golf scene? Of course, it'd be in a public course as long as you stay on property. I just think it would be such a cool. It's like when I think of history of golf, you got to put Pinehurst number two up there. You know, looking forward to an opportunity to play that. And the number one course within a three-hour drive, that if anybody can say you can pick one to play tomorrow and we'll get you on there, excluding Augusta National, Congoree Golf Club. Yep, Congoree Golf Club is, you know, there's that mystery factor too. I did have an opportunity to go down there when they had the Palmetto Championship, a PGA tour event that was kind of created, I think, on a one-year, maybe two-year basis there uh a few years ago, but Congaree Golf Club, which, you know, it was a philanthropic message and way and reason why it was created. And I just think it was so cool. It just the the course is beautiful itself, you know, that they're they're trying to help young people out with it, their miss, their mission for it. It just looks really cool. And I love the logo. The logo with the little TP. I guess it's a teepee. That may not be the right thing to say, but I I just think it is an outstanding, simple, cool logo. And like I said, the course is looks amazing. I mean, it is, I I can imagine it'd be a lot of fun. Of course, maybe for me not being as good at golf, maybe it wouldn't be as fun as I think. But those are my 10 courses I would love to play that I haven't had an opportunity to play yet, that are within about three-hour drive of where I live in Columbia, South Carolina. I'm sure I've missed a few others. Like I said, there's a few others I could put in there. I'd certainly love to play a number of the other Pinehurst courses. I really Todd Hill Farms is another one up in North Carolina that's not far that I really, really, really want to play. And there's a number of courses in Georgia as well that I think would be outstanding. Just a lot of great golf out there. So tell me, what did you think? What are some great courses in the South Carolina, maybe the near the North Carolina, South Carolina border, the north, you know, South Carolina, Georgia border that you would like to play? I'd love to get your list. What did I miss? Um, maybe I missed something. Um, hopefully, maybe I even played it. Maybe I should maybe I need to do a top 10 list of the courses I've played, and I kind of feel like I'm ranking things I really like. But, you know, I encourage you to go to bestball.com to check out all the great podcasts that we have, a part of our best ball family. A lot of great uh guests going on, a lot of great things going on right now. I'm excited about the guests that are about to come on on our podcast coming up real soon. We're gonna have episode coming out soon, talking about volunteering at a Corn Ferry tour event here at the Wood Creek Club in Columbia, South Carolina. That's gonna be a fun episode to share the good things that are going to happen out there because I'm sure it's gonna be a lot of fun. But I thank you for your time listening to another episode of the Southern State of Golf. Have a great day.